Karen and Allen Kaeja created a film/stage collaboration called XTOD:SDX. The film, by Allen, is named Xtraordinary TO Dances: Moments in Reel Time (XTOD) and the stage, by Karen, is Solo Dance Xchange (SDX).
If, as it is often said,you cann´t win, it is perhaps because when you do you so have much to lose. To put it a little gloomy, winning could be called the mark of Abel.